welcome to forbes on fox and go with steve forbes and rick unger and elizabeth mcdonald and john. >> right or wrong policy for america? >> it is a doctor bleeding the patient. it will not cure the patient but make it worse. it takes resources and will cost jobs and every job created with that means two or fewer job private sector. that will not make the economy come back. >> rick, the new economic patriotism. does it mean i am unpatriotic if i don't agree with this. >> i don't think so. >> don't like patriotism with economic plan. >> if you are going to get behind the country you need to get behind some of the thing in the plan. most particularly i like the infrastructure part of the plan. i wish congress had taken it more seriously and i like to point out the same people who are concerned about the deficit and the impact on our children infrastructure is every bit as important. if we don't bring it up to speed it will hurt. >> john, do you think that building better school is going to change the education of our students. isn't it tougher standard and more competition. >> not one io